I am aware that my opinion on Envestio is extremely far from the many that can be found on financial forums. Envestio is (probably) not a scam, but I am not enthusiastic. I don’t invest with Envestio for now, at least, not yet
As soon as I spot something new I immediately start to analyze and dissect it “my way”. If I find something powerful I send out my newsletter to make people know what’s new. I normally don’t mince words, but with Envestio it was different. It took me months to draw the first conclusions.
Today I know it is possible to have a good balance between risk and profit with p2P and similar tools. At I least I try hard to get it, but it costs some investigation work. It’s time to roll up my sleeves…
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Highest P2P Lending returns
Envestio has some of the highest returns (with a sort of buyback) of the P2P market, so it deserves my full attention.
Envestio (and its good reviews) grabbed my attention, but didn’t convince me yet
Facts & background
Is Envestio reliable?
Envestio declares to be a former investment fund started in 2014, but no detailed data about what it exactly was is disclosed on the current website. The official funding date is December 2017.
There are three companies registered by Envestio, each one with a share capital of €2500.
This is a very new company for me to invest in. I like new opportunities but it’s just too early for my standards. Statistically, something that existed for a long time has more chances to stay alive even more time. I wish very long life to Envestio because yields are just amazing, but I am not ready yet.
New doesn’t mean “Bad”, it means there is not much historical track record behind.
I remember when I spotted Mintos. At that time it was already rather big in numbers (they had founded above 60M already) but when I found out Mintos was newly born my enthusiasm cooled down for a while.
Address is in Estonia
Where is Envestio based?
This country is one of the leading places in the world for financial technologies and I have reasons to believe that they care about transparency. Estonian economy has been doing very well lately. Most Baltic countries are doing well.
This is a good point in favour of Envestio to be registered in Estonia, since some other countries are known for “medium” levels of compliance with international regulations.
It happens to me to realize that the first contact I had from Envestio was from Riga in Latvia, and their office may be also (or not only) in Estonia.
Only the CEO has clear links to Estonia (from his LinkedIn profile). I appreciated they linked to their real work profile. It tells much more then a simple email address. The rest of the staff seems to have bonds with Latvia more than with Estonia.
The feeling I get is that this is still a growing business, but what “I feel” is worth nothing in this analysis, so let’s head to the numbers.
Envestio has less than 7000 investors (2019)
It is not a huge number compared to 79.000 of Funding Circle, or the 124.000 on Mintos, or the 60.000 on Bondora.
The number of investors on Envestio is growing, also because, as I already said, it is probably the P2P lending paying the highest interests with buyback ever.
I don’t think “Envestio is too good to be true”, my humble approach is “let’s find out if it fits my risk/balance or not”.
Envestio offers business loans
€ 12 Millions offered so far. This number is smaller than most of the debt crowdfunding platforms in Europe.
Even if growing at a fast pace, Envestio is not big yet.
To make a comparison, October (ex Lendix) had founded >200M € business loans so far.
I can imagine it is more difficult to assess a business that asks for credit compared to an ordinary personal loan. The size of the loans is also different. I believe that many borrowers are rejected on business loans platforms like Envestio because they don’t always have minimum requirements.
Envestio loans risk rating
On Envestio blog I found this line: “Envestio would characterise these borrowers having a rating somewhere between BB and BBB” (https://blog.envestio.com/how-safe-investments-in-envestio-are/)
What is the default rate of a BB business loan in Eastern Europe?
I wonder if the yield they offer to investors is reasonable for similar ratings and for the average business loan in Europe. I don’t have an proper answer, it depends from too many factors. Experts please help to make it clear in the comments! ⬇️
Envestio BuyBack (how it works)
The buyback is a promise of an immediate repurchase of the loan from Envestio itself.
This is good, but hold on!
This is different from the buyback of other websites.
Investors have to ask for buyback. Buyback is not automatic in case of late payments (if applicable).
Was it tested by anyone yet it this 16 months of Envestio’s existence?
Envestio states that it has enough liquidity to perform the buyback.
5% is the price to pay (plus special conditions, if any).
Envestio says it is sufficiently capitalized to execute any buyback immediately.
Virtually it may be asked to buyback all the active loans.To do so it must have good liquidity or only a limited number of active loans.
Investors can get two types of loans:
secured debt project
subordinated debt project
For the “secured” ones, in case of “standard default” of a loan, 80% of it is repaid immediately to investors. The guarantee can be extended up to 90%.
For Subordinated debt project there is nothing to do but wait for a legal action to solve the problem and eventually recover some principal.
I don’t know if ordinary investors can find out what kind of loan they are financing. I don’t know what a “standard default” is for Envestio.
It is not mentioned if I am entitled to ask for an Envestio buyback even after I see signs of default or late payments. Probably yes.
No secondary market
There is no secondary market but it is stated that it will be implemented.
Borrowers pay between 2% and 3% for study and due diligence to apply to Envestio.
This seems reasonable to me. Even too generous for the borrowers..
Fees and rules
Investors pay almost zero fees.
The minimum investment is 1€ and the minimum deposit is 100€.
Most of the projects are in Latvia.
Some projects are split in more projects but it is the same borrower for the same project and almost the same numbers.
Some projects are about crypto mining.
I don’t like cryptos for the hype they have got lately and for many other reasons.
I may like blockchain technology as a mean of exchanging money and contracts.
I believe crypto mining is still a risky business and personally, I would not support a farm (for such a relatively limited yield).
Moreover farms’ efficiency is based on electricity price and Europe is not famous for having cheap energy.
Furthermore, I see there are “traditional” projects that pay higher interests compared to crypto mining.
How can it be?
In the list of the completed projects, I see many of the borrowers of the active projects that are borrowing again.
How safe is Envestio?
I can’t say if Envestio is safe or risky.
I think safety also depends on the use of an investor does, but with so little projects available it gets complicated to be picky. What I see from the discussions on investing forums is that, as soon as Envestio publishes a new high yield project, just everybody rushes to get it.
Projects are founded in very short time.
What one becomes an Envestio investor is entitled to refer it to his friends.
The incentives to refer Envestio after becoming an investor are tempting, but I don’t think it can be the only reason behind the wave of good Envestio reviews I read around.
I personally don’t know anyone of the 6000 Envestio investors. I wish to meet someone heavily invested and with a deep knowledge of the platform someday. If someone has €500 in a couple of business project there I would not say he can be a knowledgeable investor yet.
I am not invested, so my opinion is just one more in the crowd.